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November 25

How to delete wikipedia page or article about myself

How to delete wikipedia page or article about myself if I don't want any information published about me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:27, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Contact the Volunteer Responce Team at info-en-o(at) little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
IP, do you mean you don't want to tell us which article it is publicly (see response above) or that you don't want any information about you in any of Wikipedia's articles (but would be able to state publicly which article you mean)? In the latter case, if you are notable enough (widely written about and well-known), you can't get it deleted, but if it's a borderline case, there's a chance. See WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Even if they are the subject of the article, VRT is far better positioned to verify the request than we are. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:38, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Editing a wiki page with Arbitration Committee alert

I have been trying to edit a page on Wikipedia with the link: , as I quite disagree with the present content. But every time I attempt it, the page comes with a warning as highlighted below:

You are subject to discretionary sanctions if you edit this article. The use of discretionary sanctions has been authorized by the Arbitration Committee for pages related to pseudoscience and fringe science, including this page. Please consult the awareness criteria and edit carefully.

Does that mean my edits on this page will not be accepted? If not, then what does it really imply? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DocHK (talkcontribs) 13:41, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Replies at Wikipedia:Teahouse#Editing_a_wiki_page_with_Arbitration_Committee_alert. Please stick to one "helpdesk" at a time. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:55, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • DocHK (ec) You asked this at the Teahouse, please only use one method of seeking assistance at a time to avoid duplication. To link to other Wikipedia pages, the URL is unnecessary, simply place the title of the target page in double brackets like this [[Homeopathy]] which appears as Homeopathy. 331dot (talk) 13:57, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Certainly, if you edit Homeopathy to remove the word "pseudoscience" (as you did), you will find that your edit is reverted (as it was), because the vast majority of reliable medical sources do indeed confirm that there is nothing scientific about the practice. If you wish to discuss the issue, the place to do so is Talk:Homeopathy. Black Kite (talk) 14:08, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Col William Bradford - saving the colonies from extinction, personal property ownership

Why did Wikipedia erase and now ignore the facts regarding how Col Bradford governed the colonies?

Why is this story missing? (talk) 14:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC)John


1) Please specify what article you are talking about.
2) Please discuss improvements you are suggesting to those articles, on the talk pages of those articles. The Help Page is not the place for those discussions.
3) Please find a more reliable source, as opposed to the ultra-conservative Hoover Institute, whose theory is that privatization is the solution to all public problems. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:31, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
Not to address at all the subject of the inquiry, or your advice to the inquirer...
It rather sounds like you're suggesting that 1) being ultra-conservative, and 2) holding a social theory that you clearly disapprove of disagree with is somehow incompatible with being reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AzseicsoK (talkcontribs)
The Institute is unlikely to do a very good job of evaluating a claim that privatization made things better. A more scholarly source would be more credible. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
The article here in Wikipedia gives the impression that the Hoover Institution (not Institute) is a very credible scholarly body. Are you sure you don't mean a more left-wing source would be more credible? Uporządnicki (talk) 10:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)


How can I create a protected Biography page for a new Author? LYRIC HAWKINS (talk) 18:00, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

By using Facebook. We don't have articles on new anything, and we will not use protection to enforce content. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 18:34, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


Why you don't let most of the subjects to have a Wikipedia page? Do you want money? Is Wikipedia an encyclopedia or a charity for donors? Do they pay your salaries by this kind of money? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

  1. We don't have articles on non-notable subjects.
  2. We don't accept money to write articles.
  3. The Wikimedia Foundation is a charity that supports various Wikimedia projects, including Wikipedia.
  4. Wikipedia editors are unpaid volunteers. Meters (talk) 19:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
See also Wikipedia:Notability and WP:SCAM. 01:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talkcontribs)

Who can write a biography

I’m a new agent looking to add a clients bio to Wikipedia. Donnie Bentley is my client he is a new upcoming celebrity he is all over Google and IMDB. Who can do this for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1004:B099:51AF:4C14:3D2C:17D5:B0B6 (talk) 19:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Nobody. Neither 'Google' or IMDB can be used to establish notability. Not that Bentley's IMDB bio would do that if we could use it as a source. And read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. Editing as an IP while acting on behalf of a client isn't permitted: that requires an account, and full disclosure. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:56, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
You can find him on google though:[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
CAREFUL!!!!! This could be an entirely different person. It's a big problem for some people; they have a not-uncommon name, and anybody who goes to Google them finds a pedophile serial-killer who happens to have the same name and be about the same age--and they go to the next resume in the pile. Uporządnicki (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
That is quite likely, I was making a sort-of-joke on "he is all over Google". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
But if it turns out that linking--on an open forum--one individual who is looking to move forward in a career with another same-named individual who happens to be a scoundrel is legally actionable, I'm not sure that "making a sort-of-joke" would be much of a defense. Uporządnicki (talk) 10:31, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
A dozen, mostly uncredited, roles aren't going to satisfy WP:NACTOR, so look elsewhere. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:32, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

November 26

updating Thanksgiving information

To whom it may concern:

This year I have been made aware of how biased our understanding is of "the first Thanksgiving." Is there anyone out there who has time/energy to look into this and write a more well-rounded description--showing all sides of things? I am appalled that the description comes across very one-sided--from the viewpoint of the European pilgrims. This year I am realizing that the story as most of us know it is really trauma that is relived every year for some members of Native American tribes. Americans need to hear the complete story surrounding this topic and I believe 1/2 of it should incorporate perspectives from the native American viewpoint. Please consider, thank-you,

this article would make a great start: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:242:C003:D950:AD4B:B752:87CC:E843 (talk) 02:34, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

You're free to make suggestions at one or more of Talk:Thanksgiving, Talk:Thanksgiving (United States) and Talk:Thanksgiving (Canada). You'll be more likely to succeed in a given talk page if you limit yourself to suggestions of what to add to its article counterpart, of course providing reliable sources for this. If you make suggestions on two or three of these talk pages, be sure to minimize their overlap: Wikipedia editors tend to get rather snippy about anything that can be called a duplicate post. -- Hoary (talk) 11:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
As much as this might seem cathartic to them, that is explicitly not Wikipedia's place. You're better served talking with history scholars, the press, etc. Not a lagging indicator like Wikipedia. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 16:28, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Jéské Couriano, you surprise me. Americans need to hear the complete story surrounding this topic sounds to me like a worthy and definitely an encyclopedic aim -- provided, of course, that the story can be, and is, fleshed out from reliable sources (history scholars, the non-trashy press, etc). IP number, you might find this recent Guardian article of interest. Incidentally, although you are not obliged to log in, you'll find that there are slightly less constraints to editing if you are logged in. So I recommend that you get a user ID and consistently use it while editing. -- Hoary (talk) 04:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Dark mode?

Moved from WP:VPR

Hey, I've been inactive for months and am not that interested in editing here anymore, and I have no clue if this is the right place to ask, but does Wikipedia still not have a dark mode? It would be nice if I could go to this site without burning my eyes when I use dark mode basically everywhere else. Again, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask here because I've forgotten where I should, so it's fine if you redirect me to another page. Thanks. SemiHypercube 02:28, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@SemiHypercube: It's not turned on by default, but WP:Dark mode has instructions for the optional dark mode gadget and various other methods. ClaudineChionh (talkcontribs) 06:10, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@SemiHypercube: I use the Dark Reader extension on the Filter+ theme generation mode and a custom CSS addon to make equations appear properly. Seemplez 12:29, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Saint Martial school

I'm not sure what's causing the reference errors at the Saint Martial school article (appearing above the Sources section). Anyone know what is causing this? Please ping me! Best – Aza24 (talk) 08:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Aza24: Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing group#Issues and resolution says:
The message also appears if you mistakenly embed {{sfn}} or {{sfnp}} (rather than {{harv}}, {{harvnb}}, or {{harvp}}) inside <ref></ref>: <ref>{{sfnp|Foo|1999}}</ref>
PrimeHunter (talk) 08:43, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
PrimeHunter, indeed, but I don't believe I have any sfn in refs at the moment. I only have harvtxt which I believe falls under the "rather than" exceptions (I changed them to test it out and it still showed the reference errors. Aza24 (talk) 21:15, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
  • <ref>See Helmut Spanke,{{sfn|Spanke|1931a}}{{sfn|Spanke|1931b}}{{sfn|Spanke|1932}} who studied the poetic innovations of the manuscripts of the Abbey of Saint Martial.</ref>
  • <ref>See Wulf Arlt's reconstruction in Rankin.{{sfn|Rankin|Hiley|1993|loc="Stylistic layers in eleventh-century polyphony": 102–141}} A systematic discussion of the various treatises and of the examples given in chant manuscripts is offered by {{harvtxt|Fuller|1990}}.</ref>
  • <ref>See the reconstructions of the Winchester Troper organa by Susan Rankin, and those of the French organa by Wulf Arlt.{{sfn|Rankin|1993}}</ref>
Trappist the monk (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Aza24: In Windows browsers you can search a string on the current page with Ctrl+f. The default source editor and toolbar has a search feature after clicking "Advanced" and the magnifying glass at the far right. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:40, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Can i create my own article?

Hello Wikipedia, can i really create my own article? 13:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)Lil Moon Teddy13:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil Moon Teddy (talkcontribs) 13:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Lil Moon Teddy: That really depends on what you mean by [your] own article. An article about yourself is strongly discouraged, and even if you successfully create an article, you would not have any claim of ownership on it. There's more info at WP:YFA that will help you think about what makes a successful article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:46, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Lil Moon Teddy, Welcome to Wikipedia! If you mean an article about yourself, no. If you mean an article about something there's no WP-article about, maybe, there are RULES. It's something that's easier if you have edited WP for awhile and learned how stuff work around here.
If you have an article-topic in mind, read WP:GNG. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:YFA. WP:TUTORIAL and WP:ADVENTURE can be of help. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:51, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi, @Lil Moon Teddy: while you are allowed to create an article, it is surprisingly difficult. I strongly suggest you get experience first: start simply by fixing typos perhaps and build up from there, learning as you go. The replies above give some great links with detailed guidance about your first article, and I suggest you read them all, probably a couple of times (there is a lot there).--Gronk Oz (talk) 15:08, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks!Lil Moon Teddy (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)Lil Moon Teddy

Homages or easter eggs page for a specific film

Well, I watched Joker (2019 film), and I wonder why there is not any page and section to show homage and easter eggs in Joker; it adapt many source from multiple film, Martin's and several batman films.

I know Wikipedia is not the list for the things just exist, they are reported by some reliable source, such as den of geek, Gamesrader, and Werner's. bro. Is there any consensus on this list of film? I would like to ask to participater in film project. --Reiro (talk) 14:09, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

One reason could be that Joker is a WP:GA, so stuff like WP:RS and WP:PROPORTION may be reasonably followed. I think this film got a lot of attention outside the usual fanbase, so there may be more WP:RS to chose from than usual, making den of geek etc unwanted. It does mention the Joker Stairs. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:42, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Thanks for your answer and I agree all of consensus in Wikipedia. Well, just one small thing. Now Joker article includes this news story, introducing some homage source, such as "bad day" sentence from Batman: The Killing Joke, officer Debra Kane's name, Zorro, The Gay Blade, bat pole, etc. And also, Werner's bro Korea demonstrate 11 easter eggs from previous batman film, mainly The Dark Knight: police car scene, 'freak' word.[2](Korean)
I do not think that all of them are must included in Joker. Then, how about this? I guess, is it ok that Debra Kane the officer in 'cast' paragraph, and "bad day" sentence and TDK homage is described as notes in 'Writing' paragraph, like notes in 'plot' paragraph at MCU film articles? It do not harm any portion, just adding new neutral information; at least, in 'Writing' paragraph, TDK also is added as motive film.
And lastly, could I be provided page on RA list related on film or discussion? Thank you. Reiro (talk) 16:15, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Reiro As I see it, you have 2 choices: Be WP:BOLD, or make a suggestion at the Joker talkpage and see if there's any response. Is this link what you want? Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Film, radio and television. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:21, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: I will take latter. I did not know Den of Geek is not RS, so initially I would like to request 'Reliable sources list'. (It's my mistake, sorry) Then, I will go to Joker talkpage. Thanks for your kindness! Reiro (talk) 16:28, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Reiro. There isn't a "reliable sources list" as such, for various reasons (one of which is that reliability is not always absolute: many sources are regarded as reliable for some kinds of information but not for others). But you can ask about a source at the reliable sources noticeboard, and search its archive to see if a source has been discussed before; and some sources that have often been asked about are listed at WP:RSNP. --ColinFine (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Submission Violation

Dear Wikipedia,

I contracted Jerry_Dan to use their Wikipedia editor's status to save me time in posting a biography for Charles Nathan. They violated your protocol and Fiverr's. They are no longer with Fiverr.

Please see the attached screenshot which Jerry_Dan sent to me. They said they submitted it to you, and I accepted what's on the screenshot as proof that they did.

Is it true? If so, how can I follow up on my own? I have no contact information for Jerry_Dan and Fiverr won't help.

Thanks for getting back to me right away on this. The whole idea was to save time, but now a lot of time has been wasted.

Today a Charles Nathan song was released throughout the world. We wanted his Wiki bio to be in place.

Please help!!!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Grednam (talkcontribs) 26 November 2021 17:18 (UTC)


Grednam Hello! I can say this much: the draft Draft:Charles Nathan (songwriter) exists. As you can see at the bottom, it has been submitted for review, meaning it's waiting for someone to decide if it is fit to become an actual article. As you can see at [3], it has been declined once alredy, a couple of weeks ago. It seems to me that it has not been improved much and will be declined again because of that. You are welcome to edit the draft. Pinging AngusWOOF if you have a comment. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:41, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
The draft that I reviewed was created and edited by Freddie ski, who has since been regarded to be a sockpuppet and has been banned. If you want to rewrite the person's article from scratch, you can do so at the draft. But the version you have posted there currently is the same as the previous editor's draft. It references primary sources / websites from the songwriter (, ascap, BMI, amazon) or catalog database results (worldcat library entries). We need external news sources that are independent of the subject. So I suggest you rewrite it from scratch without using any of those websites and if the person is notable you should be able to find newspaper and magazine articles that cover the person's career in detail.
I'm not sure what to say about Jerry_Dan, Fiverr or that particular paid / compensated contract work arrangement. However, if you are associated with Nathan in any way (friend, family, colleague, agency, classmate, close fan), or are hiring someone to write up his bio then you are required to disclose your conflict of interest WP:COI. As you mentioned "We", and "wanting it to be in place", that seems to be the case, and I would respond with Wikipedia:There is no deadline. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 18:53, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
There is also a degree of copypasting from external sites,[4] and that is an absolute no-no around here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:00, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
I have tagged the draft for speedy deletion as it was created by a sock of blocked user User:Orlaw66. Theroadislong (talk) 19:10, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Grednam: It appears from your question that you (or someone) contracted with an organization named "Fiverr" to create Wikipedia content. While a lot of us volunteer unpaid editors don't particularly like this, it's not strictly prohibited by our rules as long as proper disclosures are made. However, it is not in our mandate or in our interest to spend our unpaid free time trying to help you in your interactions with those (paid) folks. We do not know and do not care who those people are, and a lot of such organizations appear to be less than reputable. The best we can do is to determine that any draft that did end up getting submitted is acceptable as a Wikipedia article. -Arch dude (talk) 21:27, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
@Arch dude: Fiverr is essentially a modern-day classified ads service. It's at best a middleman. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:13, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Need to cancel donation

Hi I need to cancel my monthly donation, how do I do this thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C50:157F:E4AC:F593:9620:B12A:ADF6 (talk) 20:08, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

See WP:Contact us/Donors and contact the email address there for all donation-related enquiries. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 20:11, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
They will simply tell you to access the account from which the payments are made, eg your credit card account or bank account, and cancel the outgoing payment yourself. With the exception of direct debits, the payee normally has no control over your donations. Never set up a regular payment if you don't know how to cancel it.--Shantavira|feed me 09:49, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

November 27


I wanna make an article! 2600:100B:B125:FE06:8B:1A01:D0C9:3C64 (talk) 03:42, 27 November 2021 (UTC) a user — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoingBatty (talkcontribs)

Hi there! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you've never edited Wikipedia before. To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest then spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:40, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Reference tag appeared.

Hi Folks!! Does anybody know why this Dorothee Poelchau comes up with sources tag needed. It is a search URL to get the record validating the claim, but it shouldn't spin up a tag with that, surely? Its not even a BLP. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 10:47, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Got it fixed. It was the spelling again. scope_creepTalk 10:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

AFC Drafts

Draft:Kewsong Lee
Draft:Song Zhuo Qun

I understand AFC articles can take a while to process but I'm not sure why one of them is 2 weeks into submission with no one looking at them. Quite a lot of articles launched this date have already been reviewed. Its not like either article is very long, controversial or difficult to check either.

-Imcdc (talk) 15:18, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

As it says, very clearly: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,700 pending submissions waiting for review." --David Biddulph (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
@Imcdc: Like other editors, reviewers are unpaid volunteers who are self-selected and under no centralized control. Each reviewer does whatever task they wish to do at whatever time they wish to do it. Some reviewers may choose to work from oldest to newest, while others will refrain from working on certain types of article like BLP or political articles, and others may work only on topics with which they are familiar. -Arch dude (talk) 16:15, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

my edit

hello some has removed my edit to a wikipedia page about st anthony’s girls catholic academy. as an ex pupil i have shared helpful information about this school that may help many people. i wish for my edit to be re added. thank you (talk) 17:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not summarize personal knowledge or opinions. Please use a more appropriate forum such as social media to give your views about something. You may be blocked if you make further edits like the one you did. 331dot (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Help with redirecting index search

Please help me redirect non-existing word to existing page. For example, linking non-existing word "A" to existing page called "B", pointing "B" when I searched "A". The Supermind (talk) 18:58, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@The Supermind: Hi there! I suggest using Wikipedia:How to make a redirect. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 19:45, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Image display trouble

How come the illustration "Roman Hall of Justice" at Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire#Reasons,_causes_and_contributing_factors is not displayed properly?--Hildeoc (talk) 19:09, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Hildeoc: It looks OK to me. Could you please specify what is not correct and what you would like to be different? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 19:46, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
@GoingBatty: Thank you very much for your interest. I've tried with several browsers, and for the embedment in the article, I only get a white field displayed instead of the image. Hope this helps. Best--Hildeoc (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
It appears as a broken image for me as well. It shows normally on Commons, but its thumbnail there is also broken for me. Isabelle 🔔 20:01, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Same here; the "Persecution of the Christians" image in that article, from the same source, also isn't displaying. Wikignome Wintergreentalk 20:08, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, both images mentioned by Wikignome Wintergreen aren't showing up for me either. Does anyone know what would cause this? There haven't been any recent changes to the article here or to either of the images on Commons. --Zander251 (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
MediaWiki is apparently unable to scale File:Young Folks' History of Rome illus378.png. I don't know whether the problem is in MediaWiki or the uploaded image breaks some png rule. Maybe GoingBatty has selected 400px as thumbnail size at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. That is the only option above the upload size 334px. MediaWiki doesn't enlarge images and would display the original upload with that setting, like the file page. It works for me when I try 400px but not smaller sizes. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
This looks like an instance of phab:T285875 to me, where broken files cause scaling to fail. I've uploaded a fixed version that'll hopefully work, though if I'm reading that task correctly it take a bit before the servers try scaling the new version. Rummskartoffel 22:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: My preferences have thumbnail size of 220px. I'm viewing the page on my Windows 10 PC with the latest version of Google Chrome. It also looks good to my on my iPhone in the Wikipedia App and the mobile view in Safari. GoingBatty (talk) 00:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
The first image is now displaying correctly (thanks Rummskartoffel!) but the second (here) still needs a fix and reupload. I'd do it, but I'm not sure what exactly the fix was. Wikignome Wintergreentalk 00:40, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Accidentally submitted article for review

I'm trying to work in my sandbox but somehow I submitted it for review with just "Testing testing"

How do I pull it from review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Data Storyteller (talkcontribs) 20:30, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Data Storyteller I've reversed it for you. You can simply go into the page edit history to undo any edit. 331dot (talk) 20:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia app on Windows 11

When I installed Windows 11 home edition, it came with a bunch of pre-installed applications (whatsapp, adobe lightroom, etc). One of those is a Wikipedia app.

Is this a Wikipedia-written app or a Microsoft-written app?

How is using this app different from just going to the Wikipedia web page?

Is Wikipedia paying Microsoft to include this app? If so, how much?

21:04, 27 November 2021 (UTC)2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:2DBE:910C:7658:2BDA (talk)

There are quite a few "Wikipedia apps". See List of Wikipedia mobile applications. "Wikipedia" is not an organization and therefore does not pay anybody anything. The Wikipedia web sites are hosted and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF), which is a non-profit. I have not researched this, but I would be astonished if WMF paid anyone to put any "Wikipedia app" anywhere. -Arch dude (talk) 23:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
It is written by the Wikimedia Foundation.
Getting it on the Microsoft Store would have cost the Wikimedia Foundation a $99 one-time fee.
I have no idea how much Microsoft charges to add an app to Windows itself. Clearly Microsoft didn't add Disney's streaming service as an included app or a link to Kohl's on the Edge opening page for free.
The question is whether they decided to include the app from the Wikimedia Foundation on every copy of Windows for free because they like us, whether we paid full price, or somewhere in between. I see no reason why the Wikimedia Foundation wouldn't be willing to pay a reasonable price for that as part of their marketing budget.
Does anyone have a real answer rather than a guess? I can do my own guessing. Does the Wikimedia Foundation publish how much they spend on promotion? (talk) 02:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Grub Hill Church, Virginia

First time ever trying to create a new redirect page, a couple of days ago, and seem to have wound up with just a page draft and not a normally accessible page. Is the "draft" status permanent, or is it waiting for an administrator (or at least a user with a regular account) to come along and kiss it so that it's no longer a frog?

I know, I know, I need to create an account; I do have some non-nefarious, if not completely valid, reasons for not doing so... --2603:6081:8004:DD5:6451:2AC4:EB73:1BE (talk) 23:26, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I've moved it to main space. IP users can't create pages in main space, even redirects. I don't know if there's a formal mechanism for requesting a redirect, but you could always suggest it on the talk page of the target article. --ColinFine (talk) 23:51, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
@ColinFine If you follow the WP:AFC wizard, it leads to a point where the draft is created and may be submitted for review. That works well enough. There is a mechanism for requesting the creation of a redirect. Despite my being a long term AFC reviewer I have never found the door key!
Your moving it to main space was expedient and pragmatic FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 23:58, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
@ColinFine and Timtrent: Another option for the future would be using Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:29, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

November 28

Unreliable source

The Neahkahnie Mountain has what I believe are unreliable sources. They are the very last two sources in the article. I am not sure how to address this. I tried to put a note within the body similar to [according to whom?], but with the phrase "unreliable sources?" within the notation. This did not work. I am uncertain as to how I should flag these citations. I suppose I could be wp:bold and remove the paragraph; however, I think it is courteous to make a notation instead to give an interested editor a chance to rectify the matter. So, considering this, how should I proceed? Most kind regards,Hu Nhu (talk) 03:46, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@Hu Nhu: Hi there! Try using {{unreliable source?}}, and providing any further details on the article talk page. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:27, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Citing Books

If I'm trying to use a book as a reference and I would like to make it easier for people to follow the reference by providing the chapter or page via URL how do I do that? Specifically with Google Books it doesn't appear that going to the specific page or chapter effects the URL at all. TipsyElephant (talk) 03:51, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: Hi there! A quick Google search found this page which describes what parameters to add to the URL. What is the URL of the book, and what is the chapter or page you want to use? GoingBatty (talk) 04:37, 28 November 2021 (UTC)