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July 31

Adding Information to Articles That Direct Victims to Find Help


I was wondering if it is possible for us to add information to articles that relate to human rights abuses and illegal activities so that current victims can be directed to places where to find help.

Articles like

all relate to the topic of human rights abuses committed by certain factions within the US government. While these specific articles and activities happened some time ago, they relate directly to ongoing programs that continue to commit human rights abuses today. People involved in these programs or who are victims to it today might be interested in how to seek help about their struggles.

In general, I think there should be a means by which people can add edits to suggest people going through certain struggles to find help. Of course, we would have to keep in mind that there are certain actors out there who would edit the article and remove this advice to keep certain activities under wraps and out of the public eye. How could we prevent something like this from happening?

Thanks for your help!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gottliebisgross (talkcontribs)

Gottliebisgross This isn't really the forum to make suggestions(that's the Village Pump); but what you suggest is not in keeping with the mission of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a how to guide and cannot give medical, health, or legal advice(all for legal reasons) Anyone with access to Wikipedia has access to internet search engines that allow them to find information about how to seek help for any issue.
Furthermore, there is no permanent way to keep information on any article or page. An article can be protected if there is a demonstratable problem with vandalism or edit warring, but not to simply prevent others from editing it. 331dot (talk) 00:03, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
This is constantly brought up on the Village Pumps and the general consensus has been "No, because this is out of scope." —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 04:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi User:Gottliebisgross. So, this has been discussed on the talk page for Suicide, whether we should provide a link at the top to a suicide prevention hotline for those readers accessing the article who might benefit from it.
We don't.
One reason is that "An anti-suicide message violates the neutral point of view policy". The Wikipedia doesn't take a position that suicide is "good" or "bad". Also we are not a how-to site, we describe stuff but don't offer practical advice on how to do things such as how to reach out out for help instead of hanging yourself.
So it's certainly not going to take a position that people having their human rights violated is somehow "bad", or that not having their human rights violated is "good". That's a moral judgement and Wikipedia editors, or most of them, are not interested in or capable of making moral judgements, or at any rate acting on them, I guess. (Or maybe they are, but like to play on the internet that they aren't. I don't know what goes on inside people's heads.)
So I wouldn't bother to pursue the question further at this website, User:Gottliebisgross, if you want a practical result. Sorry, but it is what it is. Herostratus (talk) 06:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Table width reduction

Hi Folks!! I'm looking for help on reducing the width of a table at Wartime activity so it is roughly two-thirds the current width, or possibly less, 50%. I'm really looking to make the table a bit more chunky as currently it is taking up the full width of the screen and doesn't look right. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 02:17, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;" width="50%"
Trappist the monk (talk) 02:57, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Trappist the monk: scope_creepTalk 03:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Scope_creep, remember that the article will be viewed in windows of various sizes, including smartphones in both landscape and portrait mode. Don't be too keen to change the table width unless you think the result will "look right" to most readers. Maproom (talk) 07:27, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi @Maproom: I know, I was a web designer for years. I was thinking about that last night. I'll check it. scope_creepTalk 09:13, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Request further edit?

Dear Wikipedia, This is a request for edit to correct an omission I made in previous edit of this article. I’m not too good navigating around computers. And my apology for any confusion/inconvenience. Thank you. This edit source again is the official US Coast Guard Historian’s Office website page for the US Coast Guard Cutter Chase, and also in conjunction with the original Wikipedia article. Reference source below: Chase, 1968 (WHEC 718) > United States Coast Guard > All (

This correction is for the 3 and 4th paragraphs under the heading “Vietnam and the 1970s” in the USCGC Chase Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia article presently reads: “In 1973, as part of a Destroyer-Cruiser Flotilla, Chase participated in Operation Seaconex (COMCRUDESFLOT TWO). On this operation, Chase transited the Straits of Gibraltar, and visited Portugal and Morocco. Between the years of 1970 and 1974, Chase conducted three or four Search and Rescue cases daily while on various Ocean Station duties.

Between the years of 1974 to 1978, Chase continued to patrol the waters of the Atlantic, Caribbean and Mediterranean. Chase visited Guantanamo Cuba, Spain, Morocco, Ireland, France, England and Italy. In 1976, while on a cadet cruise, Chase rendezvoused with and came under the command of the aircraft carrier USS America and was involved in Operation Fluid Drive during the Lebanon Crisis of 1976 which ultimately resulted in the evacuation of nationals from the beach after the assassination of two U.S. officials in Beirut, Lebanon by the landing ship dock USS Spiegel Grove. In 1977 Chase was among the cutters assigned to protect a part of the U.S. exclusive economic zone (EEZ) created as a result of passage of the Magnuson-Stevens Fisheries Conservation and Management Act, protecting the area from Cape May, New Jersey to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina from foreign encroachment.[4] In 1980, Chase was back in the U.S., on scene at the America’s Cup in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1982, Chase participated in "Safe Pass 1982," a member of the Fleet Composite Operational Readiness Group.”

Again, with the Coast Guard History page as reference source,. Chase, 1968 (WHEC 718) > United States Coast Guard > All ( the 3rd and 4th paragraphs should read:

In 1973, Chase participated in Operation Seaconex, (COMCRUDESFLOT TWO), an exercise with a screen of seven destroyers and an amphibious assault ship, helicopter (LPH) carrying anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters and Harrier vertical take-off and landing (VTOL) jets protecting a convoy from air, subsurface and surface threats. On this operation, Chase transited the Straits of Gibraltar and visited Portugal and Morocco. Between the years 1970 and 1974 Chase conducted three or four Search and Rescue cases daily while on various Ocean Station duties.

Between the years 1974 to 1978 Chase continued to patrol the waters of the Atlantic, Caribbean and Mediterranean. Chase visited Guantanamo Cuba Naval Base, Haiti, Spain, Morocco, France, England and Italy. In 1976 Chase was in the Mediterranean on a cadet cruise during the then on-going Lebanon Crisis which culminated in the U.S. naval evacuation of nationals from Beirut (Operation Fluid Drive), led by the attack aircraft carrier USS America after the assassination of two U.S. officials there. In 1977 Chase was among the cutters assigned to protect a part of the U.S. exclusive economic zone (EEZ) created as a result of passage of the Magnuson-Stevens Fisheries Conservation and Management Act, protecting the area from Cape May, New Jersey to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina from foreign encroachment. In 1980, Chase was back in the U.S., on scene at the America’s Cup in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1982, Chase participated in “Safe Pass 1982,” a member of the Fleet Composite Operational Group.'''

Again, thank you for this record correction edit.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bknp1 (talkcontribs) 11:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

@Bknp1: From your edit history, I see that you have made similar requests both here and on your personal talk page. Editors answered your post here. It is unlikely that interested editors will see your personal talk page posts. The best place to discuss your issues is at the article's talk page: Talk:NNS Thunder (F90) because that is where editors interested in the history of USCGC Chase (WHEC-718) and NNS Thunder (F90) will be most likely to see and respond to the issues that you raise.
Trappist the monk (talk) 16:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)


En qué consiste la cirugía de cataratas.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 31 July 2021 16:09 (UTC)

This is not a general refence desk (please see WP:RD) but for help in editing Wikipedia; however, Cataract surgery may help. Please write in English and (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:17, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Copyright violations flagged at Jim Obergefell


JIM OBERGEFELL EDITOR IN CHIEF — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babawande (talkcontribs)

You need to disclose that you are working on behalf of a client: see WP:PAID. For the text, you can read WP:DONATETEXT, but each article you link to was written by someone not named Jim Obergefell and copyright likely belongs to the site that published it. RudolfRed (talk) 23:58, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
(edit conflict) :Ok, first of all PLEASE STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS! This is generally considered "yelling" and is not very polite.
Moving on to the issue you raise: claiming to be the copyright holder is not sufficient. Wikipedia is free content, meaning if you want post your work here you must irrevocably release the all rights to the work, including others re-using it for their own profit. See donating copyrighted materials for more information on this. Also, this is an encyclopedia, not social media. Article subjects do not own or control content about themselves in any way. Wikiepdia relies on independent reliable sources as the basis for most of its content. Lastly, individuals with a conflict of interest are strongly discouraged from editing material where they have such a conflict. I hope that clears some things up for you. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
@Babawande: The material was flagged because it included direct copies from those listed sources (,, and Are you claiming that you are the copyright holder of that material on those sites? The copyright notices on those sites disagree with you. -Arch dude (talk) 00:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
[Edit Conflict] I would have expected a real "Editor in Chief" not to:
(a) make eight mis-spellings in a short message (including 'copyright' three times):
(b) to use correct grammar and punctuation when communicating with an encyclopedia;
(c) to know that on the internet typing extensively in CAPITALS is considered shouting, and rude;
(d) to understand how copyright works, and that Wikipedia is legally obliged not to host copyrighted text, even if posted by the copyright holder, unless it has been explicitly released by the holder using the appropriate legal procedure;
(e) to understand that, like every other subject of an article on Wikipedia, Jim Obergefell does not have "his page" here, but rather Wikipedia has an article about him, over which he and his representatives have no control (though he and they are entirely welcome to make specific requests on the article's Talk page).
{The poster formerly known as} (talk) 00:29, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
@Babawande:You appear to be having an identity crisis. Are you Jim Obergefell, or is Jim your client? If you are Jim, then what are you the editor in chief of? -Arch dude (talk) 17:17, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
  • On the whole, this looks a lot more like a case of a WP:PAID editor who has gotten in way over their head than an innocent new user who is a little confused about how copyright works. I'm afraid, @Babawande: you won't find a lot of sympathy if that's the case. Offering to do something for money when you don't actually know how to do it is entirely your own fault, and you've created a mess that the unpaid volunteers have had to clean up. You should maybe reconsider your chosen profession. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:46, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

August 1

Maphoto tebatso

His Please— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 1 August 2021 04:34 (UTC)

Do you have a question? Eagleash (talk) 04:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Template problem

Hey guys,
I've noticed that in Category:Establishments in Italy there is a subcategory Category:Italian television series debuts. IMO, this shouldn't be there but I don't know how to fix it. I've also noticed that Category:Establishments in the Netherlands, Category:Establishments in Norway and Category:Establishments in the United Kingdom‎ have the same subcategory issue. I have no idea how wide it goes beyond this. As far as I can see WP:TfD is not the correct venue for raising this problem (feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong!). So after trying the teahouse and posting a help me template on my talkpage I thought I'd try here. --Dutchy45 (talk) 06:38, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Dutchy45: Observe that Category:Establishments has a sub-category Category:Establishments by type, which in turn has a sub-category Category:Television series debuts. I suggest, then, that you should discuss this at Category talk:Establishments so that interested editors can decide whether a television series debut should count as a kind of "establishment". It would be appropriate to ping BrownHairedGirl when you begin the discussion, since she set up the categories and templates. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Note that the discussion is at Category talk:Establishments#Exclude_TV_series_debuts_from_Establishments_in_countryname. I have notified the relevant WikiProjects. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Remove content

How can i remove an article written about me in Wikipedia?--2600:1016:B01D:B7F2:C57A:1DF6:4B3D:6AA3 (talk) 10:16, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

That very much depends on who you are. If you a notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia, it is highly unlikely that it will be deleted. If you are not notable enough, then it is highly likely that it will be deleted, per WP:NBIO. What is the article in question? Mjroots (talk)


hello i have a question how can i categorize modules that i created? Thank you —— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 15:20, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Categories go in the ~/doc page.
Trappist the monk (talk) 15:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you alot.—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Updating a family tree

Hi all. I would like to update a family tree (at Chamorro (family)) with two additional entries I’ve written (Jaime Chamorro Cardenal and Juan Sebastián Chamorro, plus probably latter's mother who is not yet listed), but I’m struggling to do it myself. Is there a good place to ask for help with that? (I looked through the Graphics Lab and it doesn’t quite seem like their thing.) Thanks for any guidance. Innisfree987 (talk) 17:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Innisfree987. Try WP:WikiProject Genealogy. --ColinFine (talk) 19:46, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
ColinFine, genius, thank you! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:49, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

draft submit

I have submitted a page to be added to wikipedia. I want to confirm if it has been submitted for approval. I used the move option on the sandbox and chose wikipedia and edited the title. Link - — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpan13 (talkcontribs)

@Gpan13: I added a header to your question. The draft is now at Draft:Feels Like Ishq. You can submit it for review by placing {{subst:submit}} at the top. I suggest going through the guidance at WP:YFA before you submit it. RudolfRed (talk) 21:27, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
@Gpan13: I made some minor improvements and added a couple of better known sources to show notability. It's a copy edit task now, but should be approved. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

David Nemec


My user name is Katey Kazak. I want to add myself to the list of notable people from Bay Village, Ohio. My credentials as a fiction writer and a nationally known authority on nineteenth century major league baseball speak for themselves. They are verified on Wikipedia and elsewhere on the Internet. I am very low tech, however, and unable to enter them myself on the Bay Village site. Please contact me if further information is needed. Katey Kazak (talk) 22:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Katey Kazak: You'd have to establish that you're notable by Wikipedia's standards. If you're able to provide reliable sources that can attest to such notability, an article may be written about you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:12, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
To expand a bit, generally a person can be added to a list of notable people only if they already have a separate Wikipedia article about them. So the first step would be for someone (probably not you; see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY) to create a Wikipedia article about you, which would require you to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. WP:NAUTHOR has information about specific notability criteria for authors. CodeTalker (talk) 23:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
@Katey Kazak: did you also have a question about the article at David Nemec? RudolfRed (talk) 01:32, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
It looks like they were trying to add Nemec's name to the Bay Village, Ohio article. This has now been done.--Shantavira|feed me 08:30, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2

Citation help


Hope you're staying healthy and well.

I've been trying to cite the same book multiple times on this page:

I can't seem to get the multiple citations right and have inadvertently caused several errors (in large red type!) on the page.

I have read several how-to and error pages, including: but can't seem to get the hang of it.

Have tried several different approaches and looked at the other citations on the page as guidance, but no luck so far. Can you help?

Thank you! AkasaCatherine (talk) 01:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

The problem with your citation was the ref name. The error message said that calling the ref "4" (an integer) was an error. I changed it to ":4", and the error message went away.--Quisqualis (talk) 02:02, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
I just fixed the rest of them. Error message are gone. Cmr08 (talk) 02:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


How do you delete the account? User name and everything?

@Djonair: You can't. The best you can do is ask for WP:VANISH, but since you have very few edits the better solution is just stop using the account. RudolfRed (talk) 01:59, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Asking for Commons Advice

This is a question after the fact from a case that was just submitted to the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard. An editor had a question that appeared to be about the deletion of an image from Commons, which appeared to be due to a copyright issue. I advised the editor that Commons is a separate WMF wiki that is a resource for the language Wikipedias, but is administered separately from the English Wikipedia or any other Wikipedia. I said that they should discuss their concern with the deleting Commons administrator. My question is whether there is any more specific advice that can be given on the English Wikipedia to an editor about seeking advice on Commons. For instance, is there an equivalent to this Help Desk? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Yes, there is [1]] and for copyright issues there is [2] RudolfRed (talk) 04:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
User:RudolfRed - Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)


Hi! Is there really no way to speed up waiting time for GAN review? Thanks Nyanardsan (talk) 06:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

No, you just have to be patient. Mjroots (talk) 09:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Start reviewing articles yourself, then that reduces the backlog so they will get quicker to yours. That should help. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
In addition, if you review other articles, people tend to be more likely to review yours. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 10:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

660 Fifth Avenue

Does anyone know why 660 Fifth Avenue is showing up in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 07:01, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Same with 1271 Avenue of the Americas. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 07:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
As it says on the category, no-target error message are hidden by default (and the scripts recommended there don't seem to show them, either). You can make them display by following the instructions for method 3 at § Displaying error messages. I'm not familiar with the Harv system, so I don't know what to do about it, but something seems to be wrong with the references to Stern, Mellins & Fishman 1995. – Rummskartoffel 10:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Nothing is actually wrong. You can add |ignore-err=yes to each {{harvnb|Stern|Mellins|Fishman|...}} per Template:Harvard citation no brackets#Link works but displays a no target error. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

need help

hi i am new to wikipedia and i have drafted one article is their anyone who can guide me with it please. --JohanCastell (talk) 20:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Draft:Sheikh Asif @JohanCastell: The sources don't demonstrate notability of the subject. Most of them say the same thing, so in this case, quantity isn't better than quality. See WP:OVERCITE and WP:GNG. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks got it but i will edit and wait and add more sources into it. --JohanCastell (talk) 20:49, 2 August 2021 (UTC) User:Timtempleton as I mention before I am new here but I read some basic things before will you please tell me if I publish the draft and add stub tag + orphan ? Because about that draft I have seen many news articles but I don't find them good so please help me With it.

Thanks --JohanCastell (talk) 20:56, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

@JohanCastell: I wish I could be more encouraging, but based on what's there now, there's little chance the article will be approved. Dropping out of school and starting a company isn't by itself enough to satisfy WP:NBLP. Also, please see WP:COI in case you have a relationship with Asif (especially if you are him). TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:06, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
@JohanCastell: And so you don't think I'm being hastily dismissive, I also looked up the award he was nominated for, and it looks like he was self nominated. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your response I actually don't know him! Personally I found one of his article on Facebook and than I read things about him so I thought he must me on wikipedia as he have done a lot of things so is it required to add WP:COI in article.

About award I really don't have much knowledge as I read that in a news article and found pdf file on Wikimedia and yeah I read about the award in 3 4 places as I mention I don't all references. --JohanCastell (talk) 21:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

August 3